Nihilius 6/10. An individual's personal strength in the Force, devotion to training, etc. Show him to WHO! That (his duel with Revan) was his first fight anyway. Fact: Plagueis and Venamis both received their training from Tenebrous, putting them at roughly equal skill levels. However, that isn't what the feat is discussing - because again, you're mixing up what the human eye can see, and what the video recording can display. If not, he gets drained. Although using the movie as a source may not be the best idea since the novel portrayed the fight differently. Pivoting easily, he swung out at her, the dark side streaming so powerfully from him now that it seemed to be pouring forth in great fan-shaped swaths in the air around him. Yes, it is, and you don't need to be "good" at Force Speed. The reason Jedi/Sith aren't hypersonic in TCW is because that medium views the capabilities of Jedi and Sith very differently from Legends-Canon novels and comics. Plagueis trained Sidious to wield and duel with a lightsaber - therefore, Sidious' lightsaber skill comes from Plagueis. (He was always non-factor tbh. Loading... Unsubscribe from Nitros14? Vaelias. [FP]=330 Darth Plagueis16. Passive Force speed is, but active augmentation of Force speed is partly due to the own users capability in augmentation. Download. Idt maul can close the distance in time. Him being more powerful means he has more Dark Side energy to draw from, meaning he can augment his speed just as well if not further. Second underline is confirmation that Plagueis wasn't expecting whatever fighting style Venamis brought to the table, initially anyway. WHO WHO WHO WHO is the question! Much like if you set at a race car track, it is rather deafening when they zoom by you. TCW Maul, or to phrase it better, "post-bisection Maul", exists within Legends Canon - therefore his Legends feats should apply. I didn't say Traya could blitz Nihilus just maybe that she could have a better chance if she didn't need to worry about Sion attacking her while she was preoccupied with Nihilus. Maul was jumping over walls, gathering intelligence on several locations, so quickly that he was imperceptible to a recording. You can't take Maul moving at Mach 4 in one source, and him moving at below Mach 1 in another, and then say that he should move at around Mach 2. Aug 6, 2012 - "There is no strength in the hunger he possesses… and the will behind his power is a primal thing. Venamis had more devotion to learning, but Plagueis was obviously more naturally adroit due to his greater strength in the Force. He appeared everywhere at once to the author, because the novel is written in third-person. You take high end showings and his low end (TCW/TPM) and then try to find the middle ground. If you wanted to know how powerful Dromund Kaas is: The powerful electrical storms were a physical manifestation of the dark side power that engulfed the entire planet - a power that had brought the Sith back here a millennium before, when their very survival had been in doubt. That's how Vitiate and Joruus C'baoth, beings of zero physical speed, can move at the superhuman speeds they can. Kreia trained Meetra in lightsaber combat, but each of the other Masters Meetra went to also taught her another form, so fair enough on that. That's why Maul being too fast for the video to capture and display unless being put into slow motion, is more impressive than him being invisibly fast to the human eye. 3:00 . The human eye is...well... it is near impossible to tell how fast someone is by saying they are moving too fast for the human eye to follow which is why I hate that speed feat. Because he augmented his speed. The holorecorder captured the fast moving being. The film novels are a part of the New Canon, and in there you see Luke Skywalker peforming feats like reacting in nanoseconds, and Sidious moving faster than Anakin's perceptions can follow (and Anakin can see sub-light speed projectiles in slow motion). The amped Imperial Guards I didn't know about. You are simply being ridiculous then. Just because they both got trained by one person doesn't mean you're "roughly equal". Als die Mandalorianer den Planeten zerstörten, konnte Alek der Schlacht entkommen, woraufhin der Name seines Heimatdorfs durch amtliche Dokumente zu seinem Nachnamen wurde. Me and dccomicsrule2011 / deronn_solo had a debate about this months back, and he brought up the point that Force Users should be causing sonic booms when they fight and move at such speeds - but they don't, even though their speed feats are blatantly hypersonic. It displays it in REAL TIME! Shadow Conspiracy, Sith Hunters, Death Sentence, The Wrath of Darth Maul ect, are all Legends Canon, and all feature Maul after he was bisected. I said it was either third-person-limited or third-person-detatched, and it was not through Vosa's eyes. [FP]=147 Shaak-Ti25. The assassin vs the butcher, speed versus strength. Stop right now. Darth Maul's Lightsaber Lessons. And if you do, that would be ludicrous. Unfortunately. You may do what you like but cut content is not counted by me unless specifically added into the OP. Maul appeared to be everywhere at once to Vosa, almost too fast for her to see. Because even though I would agree with inference that TCW Maul has speed feats to match TPM Maul, in part due to a power disparity, I'll need some speed feats for TCW Maul to show he can blitz Nihilus, since we're playing with your logic. How is her deflecting Jango's shots in pairs and retreating at the same time a better feat than Meetra fighting off Imperial Guards amped by Vitiate or deflecting fire from mercenaries on a dark side nexus? [FP]=450 Bastila Shan or Satele Shan 9. Vitiate being good at augmenting his speed through the Force isn't transferable to Nihilus IMO. So even within the New Canon, you need to differentiate between Movie/TCW characters and film-novel characters. However, Traya reciprocates his betrayal by luring him into a confrontation with the Jedi Exile and Nihilus's own former apprentice. He was a dominant figure in the Mandalorian Wars, and due to his intellect and tactical skills, he won the war. I'll need to re-read it to confirm this. … All that proves is that Venamis was surprisingly agile and could switch forms well, which briefly surprised Plagueis. He gets ragdolled with low effort. So Maul's knowledge and practical application of Force Speed augmentation should still be there, unless he suffered memory loss, which he didn't. Concept designs, and ideas that they tossed out are one thing, a cut-content that was fully voiced is completely different as that was just not put in because of time restraints. Obi-Wan remembered Jocasta Nu telling him, With a lightsaber, in the old style of fencing, he had no match. A technique. on December 23rd 2020, 10:19 am. Sidious and Maul also have statements over Plagueis and thus all past Sith. … Movie. All slow motion does is slow down the display (which again, was REAL TIME) so that people looking at it can examine it. Maul is much faster then Traya and given that there is only 10 feet of space between them he can most likely blitz. The only explanation to this is - it's fiction, go with it. Especially considering that Revan Meetra <<< KotOR II Exile, who has other showings such as Battle Precognition, etc. I am going to simplify this: Holorecorders have a different viewing capability. Proof that Vitiate is "good" at augmenting Speed? I disagree. Nihilus has fast enough reflexes to blast Maul away before he closes the distance. [FP]=380 Windu12. It was powerful enough to engulf the whole planet in lightning storms, and it was powerful enough to attract the Sith fleeing from the Great Hyperspace War. Why? No, it doesn't. However, it's false that they were fighting dopplegangers of themselves. 3840x2160 Sith Triumvirate by Hyperion127 on DeviantArt. Re: Exar Kun vs Darth Maul (TCW Season 7) on January 1st 2021, 10:55 am @Vaelias wrote:So are we all forgetting Maul has saber … Jedes andere, sogar jedes machtfähige Lebewesen mit ähnlichem Körperbau, würde bei diesen Verletzungen dem Tod erliegen. He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls." Psychically starved by the effort, the Dark Lord falls to the Jedi, and Nihilus the man dissolves into oblivion. Darth Maul-core. You just admitted the holorecorder could see him! Then he sprang to a series of other sites that ultimately carried him to the wall of the principal building, moving with such speed the entire time that whatever holorecordings were being made wouldn't show him unless they were played in slow motion. So Maul's knowledge and practical application of Force Speed augmentation should still be there, unless he suffered memory loss, which he didn't. Then there's the fact the SWTOR:E has Darth Nihilus below all of the Dark Lords in the Valley on Korriban. As it is an impressive, very impressive, if not unknown speed feat. Then Maul is dead. Sion is rather pathetic compared to Traya and Nihilus.). --Taken from the Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide. In fact I'm not really sure who's viewpoint that scene was written in. Obviously, Maul isn't going that fast because he wouldn't want to alert everyone here is there by the sound of his movements. What the camera can capture, and what the human eye can see and process, are two different things. In his mind, the duel was all but over— his opponent was now dragging out the inevitable moment of defeat in a series of small humiliations. Tenebrous trained them both in lightsaber combat, therefore both of their skill-levels come from him. Cut content was cut for a reason even if that remains unknown. Again, stop and think about it. Darth Maul-Core. To Plagueis, lightsaber duels were tedious affairs, full of wasted emotion and needless acrobatics. Excatly. Think. 1169x1647 Darth Sion by AG88 on DeviantArt . Third underline is confirmation that they weren't fighting dopplegangers of each other, but rather Plagueis was at a disadvantage because Venamis was an expert in Plagueis' style, and could anticipate and counter his every move, whereas Plagueis didn't know what he was getting into, resulting in him sustaining a flesh wound. @i_like_swords: You know what? Going faster then normal human eye could follow. View, comment, download and edit darth nihilus Minecraft skins. So when you really look at such speed feats, all you can do is throw your hands in the air and shrug as they do not give us a way to truly look at them and gauge their speed. In Legends canon, we have Obi-Wan and Luke deflecting blaster bolts from hundreds/thousands of shooters simultaneously, the feats for Maul you've already seen, Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura moving as a blur in the view of a Clone Trooper, Darth Plagueis and Darth Venamis lighting an entire forest up like lightning while dueling, Revan and Vitiate carrying out an extensive duel in seconds, Kyle Katarn and others dueling with Caedus in a matter of seconds.. and the list goes on. Maul delivered a sharp kick to the droid's spherical underside. [FP]=360 Darth Bane13. The characters he did this with were mainly Maul, Sadiki Blirr, Vosa, and other minor characters like Eogan and Artagan Truax. You said the holorecording can see him, but it can't display him. It specifically said that the holorecording would not show Maul on the screen, unless it was put into slow motion. It does not work like that. Just stop, understand? Maul, on the other hand, does and trying to ignore them because you do not like or agree with those feats does not make them disappear. He fell to his knees, then he got back up. You can see he drained her as she couldn't even call her lightsaber to her and was unable to defend herself from Sion, when she gets her power back thanks to her bond with Meetra, she easily puts Sion in his place. Moves so fast that recording equipment needs to be slowed down to see him. Thus comes in the point of a composite being! "Psychically starved by the effort" sounds like weakening to me. That is why she used Meetra, who could not be drained, to defeat Nihilus. If Nihilus had many different showings among different media, I would happily show it. Als einer von wenigen überlebte er schwer verletzt die Kriege und widmete sich daraufhin dem Studium der Dunklen Seite. [FP]=466 Darth Sidious 8. [FP]=250 Obi-Wan^18.[FP]=@3xx.? [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Public Figure. Nothing he did to Sion is not out of bounds with his powers. Should we declare that Vergere and Maul were rough equals in lightsaber combat, since they were both taught by Sidious? Now, if we look at TCWs, he was obviously, not moving hundreds of miles per hour. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sion! Anyway, in light of the new feat I can agree that Meetra is faster than Vosa, providing this talk of nexuses and amps holds up, because while I trust you I haven't seen any of it myself. I said it was only partially due to power levels, but since Nihilus is vastly more powerful than Maul, then it's reasonable to submit that Nihilus could react. Apparently not. Uh, no, I am not. (We don't see the change in frames during movies either.). I don't feel this debate can ever reach a conclusion because it is a 'who strikes first' thread where both sides have evidence to support their side being the one who strikes first. They did not even touch her before Nihilus drained and pushed her against the wall. I believe Lockdown was written in the Multiple Viewpoints style in third person, not omniscient writer. In TCW, Force Users' superhuman speed is recognized, but they don't move so fast that regular beings can't keep up. @darkdefender: Nope, Sion just stood there as Nihilus drained and pushed Traya against the wall. Just because Tenebrous taught them in the same way means nothing. @i_like_swords: I agree with you there but than again people argue against it :\, You wouldn't happen to know how fast that is, do you? This more than justifies Plagueis being in Maul's tier. Stupid. Otherwise, you're arguing that Nihilus can actively perform a technique due to power, not skill with the technique itself. We can see into Maul's mind and his thoughts, and it's just a third-person author seeing the lightsabers everywhere. [FP]=170 Mara Jade (too weak)22. NC Maul loses badly, Legends Maul has a very good chance of closing the distance. I'm saying that he moved so fast that the recording captured him, but would only be able to display him when put into slow motion. Maybe a quick saber throw would be mauls best bet. Not necessarily. Darth Maul was the first target.. next is Obi Wan. You take all their feats and their showings and guesstimate how strong they would be if you added all that together. Always Revan. Yet Maul was too fast for it to follow during a casual training exercise. What you're saying is that, if someone was watching a holorecording of Maul at normal speed, they couldn't see him. Standard gear, all abilities allowed, fighting all out, and the fight is to the death (Maul only has to Sion was little more then a glorified henchman. I think I succeeded in providing you the speed in question. Therefore, Plagueis has to be within Sidious' ballpark of skill in order to teach him to that very skill, and I think a tier 8 is a fair placement. Course. Des Weiteren hatte er die Fähigkeit, die Macht aus allen Wesen oder Gegenständen zu absorbieren, was dazu führte, dass er nicht nur Lebewesen, sondern ganze Planeten ihrer Kraft beraubte oder zerstörte. Nihilius has no body, so Maul can't beat him or be defeated in a physical contest. Aus dem Shop ARTSABERS . Not that it effects this anyways as it still comes down to who strikes first in which I give Nihilus the edge because all he has to do is raise his hand. I'm pretty sure Meetra and Sion both received training from Kreia, and both are not in the same skill tier. What this means is if you are watching the holorecording, you would have to play it in slow motion in order to see Maul! Kill her now. Edit: Sidious, TPM Maul and Vader all have statements over the opposing team. Which is why I brought it up. What I'm saying is, however powerful Meetra is is irrelevant to how fast she is. Although, you could say that novels allow more to be shown of characters than animations and live action, which is fair enough. it still comes down to who strikes first in which I give Nihilus the edge because all he has to do is raise his hand. [FP]=400 Darth Malgus11. [FP]=300 Count Dooku17. You need to give us a speed that we can somewhat imagine and visualize if you are trying to use that as a way to speed blitz someone. It was Nihilus that defeated Traya by draining her. Maul is moving so fast that someone who were simply looking at the recording would not see him unless it put it in slow motion! Meetra fighting them off while they're amped would allow her to be faster than Vosa. CuckedCurry. You are trying to say you need to put the holorecorder on 'slow motion' in order to see super fast beings that makes zero sense!, and not that it captures them and the people watching it need to see the Holorecorder play it back to them in a slower motion so their eyes could follow him on the screen. @icecold14: Eh, put Maul 10 feet away from Nihilus with the intent to kill him and I'll take him any day of the week. What the human eye can see while viewing a video is different from what the video camera can capture. Now he could see what she meant. [FP]=500 Marka Ragnos 7. Darth Maul 【Star Wars】 Movie Character. They made the scene, they voiced it, they only didn't put it in because of time restraints. Darth Maul: Lockdown. Plagueis did not know Venamis' form or fighting style, beforehand anyway. [FP]=800 Luke Skywalker (Full Potential) 3. [FP]=150 Ki-Adi-Mundi (too weak)23. All around them, the whole world seemed to be blowing itself to pieces. Worse for Plagueis, Tenebrous had made Venamis an expert in Plagueis’s style, and so the Bith could not only anticipate but counter Plagueis’s every move. Then you may deliver the weapon to any of the Bando Gora who remain. The holorecording displays him just fine, he just moves faster then we can see, so the holorecorder slows it down so we can see him which means he was moving faster then the human eye could see, not faster then a holorecorder. Kill her. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sion Nitros14. on December 23rd 2020, 10:52 am. You are trying to say the camera did not catch him, which is an out right lie. He has sufficient displays of Stun, TK and Lightning to overwhelm Maul via those routes just as easily. It's not all due to power levels though. Not quite desperation, but he did have to roll out of the way because of the pressure Jango was putting on him. Revan vs Darth Maul 68 results; 1; 2; Akira Overdrive. The holorecorder captured his image. Darth Maul is best Sith. Since they're fast enough to install fear in Dark Council Members, and bring the mightiest of Sith in the OR era to their knees in inevitable defeat, and amped, they must at least be about as fast as Vosa, who deflected blaster bolts where other featless Force Users couldn't. Taking two different Canon versions of Maul, and looking for consistency, is not going to work, because they are vastly different portrayals of the character. Pure and simple. Him being more powerful means he has more Dark Side energy to draw from, meaning he can augment his speed just as well if not further. The novel said nothing about Plagueis not knowing Venamis's form. A statement made in 2011 that states Maul as of TPM on Tatooine is proof that the Sith are more powerful than ever. Again, re-read the quote. So if you want to debate TCW/New Canon Maul vs Legends Nihilus, be my guest. I've lost why this point was even brought up anyway. To show it to whom? Bane is > Maul tbh . Because that isn't a speed Maul has even demonstrated. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Mit seiner neuen Macht versetzte Nihilus sich in seine Rüstung hinein und machte es sich zum Ziel, auch den letzten Jedi zu töten und sich dessen L… People with eyes. This is a godstomp. Again, what Vitiate does is of no relevance to what Nihilus does. Er besann sich auf die Macht und sog in einem Sith-Monument auf Malachor V die darin enthaltene Dunkle Energie in sich auf. Where did I say they were fighting doppelgangers of themselves? I can't put it more simply than this: Maul moved too fast for the holorecording to capture and display unless it was put into slow motion. 1232x908 Darth Nihilus and Darth Sidious vs Avengers - Battles - Comic Vine. are all other factors that make up one's skill. At one point he leapt onto an overhanging greel branch and, when Plagueis severed it with a Force blow, hung suspended in the air—no mean feat in itself—and continued the fight, as if from high ground. There is no consistency or middle ground to be found. Alek wurde im Dorf Squinquargesimus auf Quelii im Äußeren Rand geboren, einem Planeten, dessen Bewohner auf Nachnamen verzichteten. Yea, exactly, to people with eyes who would need the image slowed down in order to see which means he was moving faster then the human eye could follow across that screen. They're essentially super computers. @wut: Fair enough, but it still doesn't change my stance. Covering 10 feet in well under a second so he can put his leg through Nihilus' torso is well within Maul's capabilities. Unless it was put into slow motion. Nihilus is not in TCW, or I would happily show him in there. Combine that and you get.... ? I really don't understand what you're saying here. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. To suggest it could see and record him, but not display is stupid. No, he didn't appear everywhere at once to Vosa. It's from the author's perspective, unless you want to call this Obi-Wan's perspective: As Obi-Wan gave ground, Dooku quickened the pace. Darth Nihilus B A D M A N. Dec 20, 2020 #41 Fang Titan . Psychically starved by the effort, the Dark Lord falls to the Jedi, and Nihilus the man dissolves into oblivion. Level Six. Re: Darth Nihilus vs Darth Tenebrous. Which means Maul was moving the same speed he was when the recorder recorded him and then showed him. Level Four . Nihilus stomps almost anyone in terms of Force, since he can drain entire planets. I didn't say they were fighting dopplegangers of each other. Also you can use it if you want I just won't acknowledge it. They may have changed their mind at the last moment or disagreed over Nihilus having been able to do that. He used lightning, drain, and ragdolled him all at once (Pulled him towards him then pushed him away again). He's shown passive Force speed when fighting and losing to Meetra and two others in an unconfirmed manner (while weakened), which is alright, but I still don't see it as enough to defend from a blitz from Maul. The camera did catch him. Darth Maul-core. 1600x1200 Darth Nihilus Vs Darth Sion Images & Pictures - Becuo. He also knows Stun and Lightning. By turning to such diversionary tactics, Vosa had all but admitted that she was no match for the erratic staccato blows that he was delivering, seemingly from everywhere, all at once. Teaching somebody the forms and the basics of combat doesn't mean anything. But, the human eye does not see as well as a Camera, in order for the holorecording to show it to people, it needs to slow down Maul for their eyes. I am aware of EU feats. [FP]=180 Qui Gon Jinn (too weak)21. @i_like_swords: I feel this is an even fight 50/50. Taschenbuch 14,00 € 14,00 € Lieferung bis Dienstag, 12. Who will win in a fight between Darth Nihilus and Darth Maul (TCW)? I said it was similar to that, because Plagueis was fighting somebody who had the exact same knowledge of forms and the likes as he did. Get e-mail updates for my channel! And after that, there wasn't any mention of that. Fact: Sidious is a tier 9-10 duelist, who received his training from Plagueis. Darth Nihilus (the challenger)19. It's all due to their power levels. Traya trained Meetra back in the arts of dueling, but we know full well that Meetra is vastly more skilful. Sion war u… In short order, Venamis penetrated his defenses, searing the side of Plagueis’s neck. MasTazas Star Wars Darth Nihilus Wanduhren Wall Clock 20cm. ―Kreia. This is prime Darth Maul vs prime Darth Sion. I never said it was all due to power levels. My main point being, in a Legends Canon debate, you can't discredit Legends feats with New Canon sources like TCW. I wasn't discrediting yours. There is a distinction to be made between TCW/Movie, or to put it simply, New Canon characters, and Legends Canon characters. The problem, again, with trying to take such a speed feat is the fact that should he be moving hundreds of miles per hour, which would probably be the case if he is moving hundreds of meters per second in order to beat out the natural 'flicker' rate of human eyes (which is relevant given this is a droid which would have probably superior 'eyes'), then he would be making a lot of noise. However, that does not excuse anything. That form of logic has no substance. [FP]=540 Darth Vader (Anakin on the Dark Side) 6. If you are trying to use a fictional speed feat, you need to provide the speed in question. Re: Darth Nihilus vs Darth Tenebrous. Tenebrous, however, who had pronounced Plagueis a master of the art, had always enjoyed a good fight, and had clearly bequeathed that enthusiasm to his other trainee.For no sooner had the blades of their weapons clashed than Venamis began to bring the fight to him in unexpected ways, twirling his surprisingly limber body, tossing the lightsaber from hand to hand, mixing forms. That isn't happening for Maul. All your arguments about practicality and being good at Force Speed should apply here, but they don't. Suspect Hero | Level Four. Darth Nihilus is very powerful sith (he has full level of the Force Drain) because of that, he will challenge My Top 20 List. There is one exception to this, however. Yep, I'm fully aware of what I'm trying to say right now. Nihilus bloodlusted instant drains and throws Maul across the fight area 100 times even if he has already died by this point from impact. This is also TCW Maul, not TPM Maul, so going by your logic, what feats does TCW Maul have to show he can blitz Nihilus? Darth Maul: Apprentice. Dueling-wise, Maul gets the edge certainly, and in speed. Community. moving with such speed the entire time that whatever holorecordings were being made wouldn't show him unless they were played in slow motion. If Jango forced Obi-Wan to roll in another source feel free to cite it, but I'll bow out on this point for now. He just goes straight for the force,). You can write from the perspective of a character while keeping it in third person, as long as the events in the novel are experienced as the character experiences them, never hinting at the future or demonstrating any foreknowledge. However, Nihilus hasn't shown himself augmenting his Force speed. @wut: That was with the help of Sion however and Nihilus demonstrated his ability to do this after Traya had been beaten. Nihilus instantly drained and pushed her. Or that Lumiya was equal to say, Flint, or Galen Marek, since they were both trained in combat by Vader? If Maul closes in the gap quickly enough, Nihilus is dead. Me and @dccomicsrule2011 / @deronn_solo had a debate about this months back, and he brought up the point that Force Users should be causing sonic booms when they fight and move at such speeds - but they don't, even though their speed feats are blatantly hypersonic. Deshalb war er auch als Lord des Hungersbekannt. Actually, yes, it does, because both are a similar type of character. I am going to take your arguments as not understanding how a visual recorder works. LadyKulvax. The droid raced past him and smashed hard against the cell wall. To move faster then a camera would require someone to move faster then photons. Januar. Follow 10214. He did not want to kill Sion, merely to teach him a lesson. Nur noch 9 auf Lager. Dooku is not so fast that Obi-Wan would get speedblitzed by him. 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